The Dailies. September 11, 2022

The Dailies. September 11, 2022

Did you work on your language today? Create any new rules of grammar or syntax? New progress on a script? New words in your lexicon?

On the other hand, do any excavating or reading or enjoying stuff you’ve already created? Do you have any favorites to share?

How did you conlang today?


9 thoughts on “The Dailies. September 11, 2022

  1. Another entry on Naqlikar!

    Regarding worldbuilding: the Naqlikam who live inland or in the cities are known for being good breeders and dressers of donkeys. Which are rather important trades, as this whole world is lacking horses and all the cattle suitable for domestication are on the other continent, so donkeys are (probably) the only beasts of burden around.

    -as a nominalizing person suffix like English -er, mainly (only?) attached to verb roots. The plural ending for such words are -sam. So: ponón is ‘teach’ in present tense singular, ponónas is ‘teacher’, and ponónsam is ‘teachers’ (nominative case).

    ajgu ‘donkey’. Irregular case and plural inflections: pl.nom: ajgam (and not *ajgum, which would have been regular), ajge (and not *ajgune), acc pl. ajgamus [in spoken form usually: ajgams] dativ sg ajgema, dativ pl. ajgamuma, loc. sg. ajguma, loc. pl. ajgama. Perhaps because the irregular accusative form singular, ajge, is so short, it’s still often used in speech.

    fal ‘boat’ in general; ‘ship’
    falpu ‘fishing boat’, a completely opaque word of murky etymology. In daily speech this word tends to see more use than the generic fal, at least among the Coastland Naqlikam.

    I also realized I’ll need to elaborate more on how the locative case and preposition phrases work, but more on that later. There definitely need to be actual prepositions to clarify meaning, but I think some semantics will be placed onto specific verbs instead. (And/or alongside.)

    1. Nice! I love the worldbuilding details and the nominalizer! Those are always good to have, like for real.

      Locatives are tricky little beasts, but soooo useful. I like these a lot!

  2. All right! Pulling myself together to write up the last couple days’ work, of which there really was some; I was just too swamped with RL pains and toils to get them posted. So here goes!


    First, some vocab:

    • yaktab, adj. overabundantly, excessively (Note: So there’s the fact that b never seems to occur word-finally, which leads me  to think this shows as yaktab when suffixed, but yaktav when unmodified. But I’m not 100% done thinking through how b/v, and v/f alternations really behave across the entire language.)
    • -yak-, emphatic verb affix
    • -bant, resultative affix, from eibant, PASS.PTCP. “arrived; having traveled”
    • naihum, adj. pretty in a childish way
    • aisha, n. doorframe
    • aishai, def. n. 1. personal or household titulary; 2. transitional days between seasons
    • nivime, n. hair
    • gawes, n. one’s space or territory, regardless of whose property it is, e.g. a room that belongs to one’s father but is considered as one’s own due to territorial and usage considerations
    • yipuur, n. embrace, i.e. the clasping of bodies by the arms
    • yipuuraan, n. sex
    • yeyipuur, n. 1. cuddling of an infant or small child; 2. child blankets or swaddling materials


    And the correctly including participles verb paradigm! (Though there is Haspelsmith that talks about -able as another participle, which doesn’t make any sense to include in with verbs, which leads me to the point about how are we defining participles? These are essentially verbal adjectives, but that includes a lot more things that don’t belong in the verbal paradigm at all, so I’m thinking there are participles as an adjectival class, and participles as a verb stem. Which does not tell me where these stems are going to show up in TAM yet, but seems sensible enough as a way to differentiate the two kinds of participles I need to concern myself with.)

    to trouble, to make trouble ACTIVE MIDDLE PASSIVE
    PRESENT sulo suloek sulont
    PAST suloen suloeken sulonten
    FUTURE alisuloen alisuloek alisulont
    PARTICIPLE sulon sulok sulont

    Woot. At least passive is clearly making use of the participle.


    And about Mirishtí verbs! First off, oh joy, it’s actually quite atypical for gender to be constantly reified on verbs and I have it pretty much everywhere my conlangs have gender. So at least I can actually think about that better.

    First off, on TAM: I’d known I wanted to use a hiodernal/crastinal type near future/near past opposition, but some of these will be periphrastic. That said, this set of words are all uninflected and plunked right after the verb, except the first in the list, which is just the origin of them all:

    • kippa: day, used in the sense of a 24-hour day but not of era or age
    • duakippa: near future
    • huedakippa: far future
    • bekippa: near past
    • huebakippa: far past


    As for paradigms, let’s go with the first set I did being 3rd person, wherein gender is distinguished but in 1st/2nd it will not be, but this time add past / future:

    Note: The final p in the past tense forms is unreleased. The word-internal apostrophe represents a glottal stop.

    to excel
    S. Masc. S. Fem. S. Neut. P. Masc. P. Fem. P. Neut.
    3. Prs. Ind. okhlamdót okhlamdét okhlamdét okhlamdót okhlamdétes okhlamdéti
    3. Pst. Ind. okhlamdóp okhlamdép okhlamdép okhlamdóp okhlamdé’pes okhlamdé’pi
    3. Fut. Ind. okhlamdóttu okhlamdéttu okhlamdéttu okhlamdóttu okhlamdéttues okhlamdéttuai


    And boy, does that table barely fit. Even so, there we have it. Obvs., a lot of this will probably have to be properly considered with other types of base stems, but this is still sufficient to make that just details when I hit it.

    Other terms for which I do not yet have stories, nor etymologies, :sob:

    • danaqáye: proper noun, Control (as in the name of a control department, center, or tower of an organization)
    • simu: n. paper
    • oko: n. cheap or very thin paper
    • khabushti: n. temple
    • obushti: adj. sacred
    1. And that table doesn’t fit at all. One moment:

      to excel
      Masc. Fem. Neut.
      3S. Prs. Ind. okhlamdót okhlamdét okhlamdét
      3S. Pst. Ind. okhlamdóp okhlamdép okhlamdép
      3S. Fut. Ind. okhlamdóttu okhlamdéttu okhlamdéttu
      3P. Prs. Ind. okhlamdót okhlamdétes okhlamdéti
      3P. Pst. Ind. okhlamdóp okhlamdé’pes okhlamdé’pi
      3P. Fut. Ind. okhlamdóttu okhlamdéttues okhlamdéttuai
    2. Very handsome!

      I really like gawes and yipuur/yipuuraan. Where does the stress fall on these particular words?

      About participles in Courtly – I don’t quite get it. Does sulon roughly correspond to English “troubling” or some other meaning? Is sulont like “being troubled” or more like “was troubled” or something else?


      1. GA.wes

        So trouble-making, trouble-causing would be the gloss for the active participle, troubled or plagued (by troubles) for the passive participle, and the middle would probably be translated troubled in English, but it refers to troubles that are indirectly or unintentionally caused by oneself or just happened naturally rather than having an external agent actively making trouble for you.

        The middle also is the gerund, since it’s basically agentless or autocausative.

        So not all verbs have all three voices, but this one does, thus my choice of using it. The middle for sulo tends to skew towards having a bunch of problems that are self-caused with an implication of not realizing this.

        1. Thank you!

          The middle for sulo tends to skew towards having a bunch of problems that are self-caused with an implication of not realizing this.

          Wow, I love this nuance!

  3. I’d like to ask nonniemas something – is it okay if I make a new post about a specific linguistic subject that just occurred to me?
    It’s been so long since I was really active here and I’d rather check first.

    (The subject would be written vs spoken language, and equally driven by curiosity as wanting to share!)

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