The Dailies. April 12, 2023
Did you work on your language today? Create any new rules of grammar or syntax? New progress on a script? New words in your lexicon?
On the other hand, do any excavating or reading or enjoying stuff you’ve already created? Do you have any favorites to share?
How did you conlang today?0
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The amount of words I did this morning is kind of crazy, so I’m just gonna drop the pronouns here and deal with the rest of the vocab as I have more time to clean up the definitions a bit.
The b here is v in some dialects. Parenthetical ni is omitted for inanimate referents.
absolutive personal pronouns:
For ergative, add -hn.
1st – na, ni, no, uren
2nd – ou, ouet, uus, urou
3rd – a(ni), ha(ni), wa(ni), ba(ni)
possessive personal pronouns:
For ergative, add -n.
1st – nokh, noikh, nokhs, norekh
2nd – ukh, uikh, ukhs, urekh
3rd – a(ni)kh, ha(ni)kh, wa(ni)kh, ba(ni)kh
Ishiam adds two sets, ba- for speaking to or of someone with indeterminate or unknown difference in age, generation, or standing and sa- for speaking to or of someone of lower age, generation, or standing. Yeah, rather honorific like I’m noticing. Also, not 100% in line with how sa- is used in general respect words, but that’s life sometimes.
The sa- is for lower age/generation/standing, not higher? Seems like the opposite of a honorific, then. (?)
If this was an nominative-accusative language, I’d guess that the four forms of the pronouns listed here would be nominative, dative, accusative, and genitive, but with ergative-absolutive languages I feel more at sea…
So the four forms are masculine, feminine, divine/nature/ascended, and neuter. Sorry for not labeling them. I’m getting used to just chucking in the 4 endings on adjectives and didn’t think to make the note.
That said, that’s actually why it looks like all the things I always thought could develop into an honorific system with politeness levels of speech have pretty much done so for Ishiam. The divine/ascended gender (or class III) is already used to refer to people one is referring to with higher standing / duty / glory, and when combined with referring to oneself with sa-, it’s functionally polite speech as far as the pronouns, and I’m pretty sure based on what I do have built out that this extends beyond just pronouns. I’ve been not really basing this on honorific systems and just focusing on building the language as it naturally seems to develop, but it’s looking suspiciously more like than it originally did.
I’m not sure what cases are going to show up. I’m assuming a dative will show up, but right now, I know ergative and absolutive, so at least that’s something. 😀
Oh, so it’s genders, not cases! I was way off, haha. 😀
Oh, okay, you can refer to yourself with sa- then it makes sense!
I forgot to post this last week but: on this day I got back to conlanging for the first time this year basically. I just did a bit of “housekeeping” for my Star Trek conlang and I’m going to continue working on it on my stream tomorrow.
By the way – a friend has offered to make a Notion template for conlanging and asked what I’d like it to feature so I thought I’d pass the question on: what would you like to see in a Notion template made for conlangs?
Housekeeping is good! Tbh, I don’t use notion, except for work, so not sure on the templates.
I’m afraid I don’t know anything about Notion.